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Re: The new Launchpad Pro (I mean, the controller, not the website ffs)

phATty wrote:
Datguy wrote:
phATty wrote:

Not getting it.
The RGB pads are nice.

But dem buttons doe! Dem are de lamest.

Totally.
Seriously I'm not paying for a cheap copy of the ableton push.

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I don't understand why everyone is hating on this so much, I mean, yeah it's similar to the push but it's cheaper and still has some good stuff...Also, how are the buttons lame?

If you've ever tried the ableton push you'll know that you can't push down the buttons.
You can only tap them.

Should be called the Ableton Tap.

XD! I get it.

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Re: The new Launchpad Pro (I mean, the controller, not the website ffs)

phATty wrote:
Datguy wrote:
phATty wrote:

Not getting it.
The RGB pads are nice.

But dem buttons doe! Dem are de lamest.

Totally.
Seriously I'm not paying for a cheap copy of the ableton push.

*>*
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I don't understand why everyone is hating on this so much, I mean, yeah it's similar to the push but it's cheaper and still has some good stuff...Also, how are the buttons lame?

If you've ever tried the ableton push you'll know that you can't push down the buttons.
You can only tap them.

Should be called the Ableton Tap.

Just because the push has 'lame buttons' doesn't mean the LP Pro will have the same kind of buttons. If anything it will have the same soft buttons...

Yee

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Re: The new Launchpad Pro (I mean, the controller, not the website ffs)

Do you think the launchpad pro will be compatible with project files already out?  Im was gonna get this when i saw it but then i thought of this.

big_smile

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29 (edited by Datguy 2015-02-04 01:00:27)

Re: The new Launchpad Pro (I mean, the controller, not the website ffs)

LighterMoss wrote:

Do you think the launchpad pro will be compatible with project files already out?  Im was gonna get this when i saw it but then i thought of this.

Yeah, I'm curious as to how the user 1 lightshows are gonna work...Either it's simply gonna be different velocities or it's gonna be something entirely new...unfortunately the only videos (posted so far) showing any lightshows in the user mode are triggered through midi clips and no drum rack.

Anyways, that'll be pretty unfortunate if you can't do normal lightshows the 'traditional way' (with the drum rack) with the new RGB lights and all...

My YouTube Channel
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Re: The new Launchpad Pro (I mean, the controller, not the website ffs)

Datguy wrote:
LighterMoss wrote:

Do you think the launchpad pro will be compatible with project files already out?  Im was gonna get this when i saw it but then i thought of this.

Yeah, I'm curious as to how the user 1 lightshows are gonna work...Either it's simply gonna be different velocities or it's gonna be something entirely new...unfortunately the only videos (posted so far) showing any lightshows in the user mode are triggered through midi clips and no drum rack.

Anyways, that'll be pretty unfortunate if you can't do normal lightshows the 'traditional way' (with the drum rack) with the new RGB lights and all...

If you can't, you CAN expect someone to make a M4L devices to emulate it really damn quick xD

Apparently, I'm "Diplo Jr."... I ain't complaining.

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Re: The new Launchpad Pro (I mean, the controller, not the website ffs)

I think Novation are tired of project files with only samples of the song, I mean, only the .mp3


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32 (edited by Datguy 2015-02-04 18:29:54)

Re: The new Launchpad Pro (I mean, the controller, not the website ffs)

Quentinover wrote:

I think Novation are tired of project files with only samples of the song, I mean, only the .mp3

Even though that's a great thing, still sucks for people who are skilled with programming LED effects with the midi effects and all that. They could still make creative things with that.

My YouTube Channel
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Re: The new Launchpad Pro (I mean, the controller, not the website ffs)

A lot of peoples are buying the Launchpad for remaking song from samples and not original things, that's why the LP pro have some advanced features ?

Re: The new Launchpad Pro (I mean, the controller, not the website ffs)

Launchpad95 (script that turn your Launchpad S into a Ableton Push) + the so called Launchpad "Pro"  = INSTANT ABLETON PUSH!

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Re: The new Launchpad Pro (I mean, the controller, not the website ffs)

NoahDoesLP wrote:

Launchpad95 (script that turn your Launchpad S into a Ableton Push) + the so called Launchpad "Pro"  = INSTANT ABLETON PUSH!

go onnnnn.....

"Dude it sucked.. I was all jammin and then *bam!!!!* I got punced in the colon from the inside.."
"If you stay 20 years behind of everyone, you are automatically 10 years ahead."
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCqCkqm … 66koJYb-fA

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Re: The new Launchpad Pro (I mean, the controller, not the website ffs)

LighterMoss wrote:

Do you think the launchpad pro will be compatible with project files already out?  Im was gonna get this when i saw it but then i thought of this.

Okay, good news, according to Novation:

http://i.imgur.com/x5QFpxp.png

My YouTube Channel
Hell Yeah! Launchpads n' Stuff! ⬆GO HERE⬆ ...Please
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Re: The new Launchpad Pro (I mean, the controller, not the website ffs)

i may just have to pre-order one of these... for home use, use the launchpadS when im going out or traveling

"Dude it sucked.. I was all jammin and then *bam!!!!* I got punced in the colon from the inside.."
"If you stay 20 years behind of everyone, you are automatically 10 years ahead."
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Re: The new Launchpad Pro (I mean, the controller, not the website ffs)

robtapps wrote:
NoahDoesLP wrote:

Launchpad95 (script that turn your Launchpad S into a Ableton Push) + the so called Launchpad "Pro"  = INSTANT ABLETON PUSH!

go onnnnn.....

http://motscousus.com/stuff/2011-07_Nov … e_Scripts/
If they update this so it'll work with the Launchpad Pro, I MAY consider it in the future......

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Re: The new Launchpad Pro (I mean, the controller, not the website ffs)

Datguy wrote:
LighterMoss wrote:

Do you think the launchpad pro will be compatible with project files already out?  Im was gonna get this when i saw it but then i thought of this.

Okay, good news, according to Novation:

http://i.imgur.com/x5QFpxp.png

Find anything on the internet, you can.

We have soo many amazing people on this forum.

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It is not terribly different IMO but I am not sure what this means to the launchpad community yet, but we will find out

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Re: The new Launchpad Pro (I mean, the controller, not the website ffs)

nYmE wrote:

I think the "normal" launchpad became so popular, cause it is a very simple and not so expensive controler.
The launchpad pro now is the opposite of that...

You're soo right. The buttons are EVERYWHERE.....

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Re: The new Launchpad Pro (I mean, the controller, not the website ffs)

Okay , so I'm just going to set this kinda straight.

COST:
      I understand that a large consumerbase for the launchpad are kids (Not that there's anything wrong with that). That's probably why there's so much complaining about pricing. To be honest, if your one of those people freaking about price, get over it. It's sort of a "Welcome to the DJ world" kinda thing. TONS of equipment available for DJ's and Producers is quite costly.
      When looking at the launchpad pro for example, we should be GLAD it's not more than it is. First thing, it's got 64 RBG LED's. I don't know if anyone else understands, but it's not hard to understand that RGB LEDs are WILDLY expensive. So that jacks up the price a lot.
      Then there's the extra functions. All of those are controlled by a motherboard, which we already know from taking apart the Launchpad S. That motherboard has to handle aaall of the tasks and information sent and received through the launchpad. What does that matter? Well, the company has to build a whole new motherboard to process all of the new functions & features, let alone the 10s of thousands of pieces of info sent and received from the launchpad. (Yes, it's 10s of thousands. Brix and I found this out when researching some stuff for wildly complicated lighting patterns). That jacks up the price even more.
      So really, the Launchpad Pro isn't insanely priced for what it is. We should be appreciative of the fact that it doesn't cost more.


COMPARISONS TO PUSH:
    As for the push comparisons. It's honest to god nothing like push. If you don't believe me, let's break it down.
PUSH:
Knobs
Screen
Rectangle buttons, longer in horizontal length
Grey plastic, rectangle device (in shape)
RBG lit buttons
Built for music production
LP PRO:
Square buttons, equal in length and width
Grey plastic, square device (in shape)
RBG lit buttons
Circle buttons surrounding the controller to carry out extra functions
Built for Live music performing

What are the only things that match on the two lists? Grey plastic, and RGB Lighting. What does that tell you? They aren't much alike, unless your only comparing BASIC aesthetics. So please, stop with the push comparisons.


USER 1 MODE:

As for User 1 mode. I sincerely hope that it's still able to be powered BY DRUMRACKS, and that the samples don't automatically create buttons on the corresponding pads. If I figure out more about this, I'll be sure to update this.

Apparently, I'm "Diplo Jr."... I ain't complaining.

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43 (edited by Vinyl 2015-03-10 19:09:51)

Re: The new Launchpad Pro (I mean, the controller, not the website ffs)

ViperActive wrote:

Okay , so I'm just going to set this kinda straight.

COST:
      I understand that a large consumerbase for the launchpad are kids (Not that there's anything wrong with that). That's probably why there's so much complaining about pricing. To be honest, if your one of those people freaking about price, get over it. It's sort of a "Welcome to the DJ world" kinda thing. TONS of equipment available for DJ's and Producers is quite costly.
      When looking at the launchpad pro for example, we should be GLAD it's not more than it is. First thing, it's got 64 RBG LED's. I don't know if anyone else understands, but it's not hard to understand that RGB LEDs are WILDLY expensive. So that jacks up the price a lot.
      Then there's the extra functions. All of those are controlled by a motherboard, which we already know from taking apart the Launchpad S. That motherboard has to handle aaall of the tasks and information sent and received through the launchpad. What does that matter? Well, the company has to build a whole new motherboard to process all of the new functions & features, let alone the 10s of thousands of pieces of info sent and received from the launchpad. (Yes, it's 10s of thousands. Brix and I found this out when researching some stuff for wildly complicated lighting patterns). That jacks up the price even more.
      So really, the Launchpad Pro isn't insanely priced for what it is. We should be appreciative of the fact that it doesn't cost more.


COMPARISONS TO PUSH:
    As for the push comparisons. It's honest to god nothing like push. If you don't believe me, let's break it down.
PUSH:
Knobs
Screen
Rectangle buttons, longer in horizontal length
Grey plastic, rectangle device (in shape)
RBG lit buttons
Built for music production
LP PRO:
Square buttons, equal in length and width
Grey plastic, square device (in shape)
RBG lit buttons
Circle buttons surrounding the controller to carry out extra functions
Built for Live music performing

What are the only things that match on the two lists? Grey plastic, and RGB Lighting. What does that tell you? They aren't much alike, unless your only comparing BASIC aesthetics. So please, stop with the push comparisons.


USER 1 MODE:

As for User 1 mode. I sincerely hope that it's still able to be powered BY DRUMRACKS, and that the samples don't automatically create buttons on the corresponding pads. If I figure out more about this, I'll be sure to update this.

I agree with viper...again, not because I'm a fan, but because it's kinda silly how many people are bashing on the LP Pro. If it's something you don't like then don't bother commenting about how 'bad' it is. I mean like, It isn't even out yet...

Yee

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44 (edited by robtapps 2015-03-10 19:13:43)

Re: The new Launchpad Pro (I mean, the controller, not the website ffs)

rgb leds arnt that expensive viper... but the lp pro is stil chreap as balls for what you get... as a matter of fact it would cost no more than my midi fighter OR my samson graphite mf8+Launchpad S

like you gotta think they are buying components in MAD HUGE bulk amounts, so say 80 rgb led's may cost us about $80 it only costs them $40.

"Dude it sucked.. I was all jammin and then *bam!!!!* I got punced in the colon from the inside.."
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Re: The new Launchpad Pro (I mean, the controller, not the website ffs)

ViperActive wrote:

USER 1 MODE:
As for User 1 mode. I sincerely hope that it's still able to be powered BY DRUMRACKS, and that the samples don't automatically create buttons on the corresponding pads. If I figure out more about this, I'll be sure to update this.

To the best of my understanding, pads will be automatically lit up with samples in Note mode but User mode shall be the same (I contacted Novation asking them if my M4L devices would work in User mode and they said yes) smile

Vinyl wrote:

I mean like, It isn't even out yet...

Totally agree, I think the launchpad pro is still to be finished; Novations developers are still playing round and perfecting it (the pictures/videos we've seen of the launchpad pro are all demo's).

LAUNCHPAD = LIFE

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Re: The new Launchpad Pro (I mean, the controller, not the website ffs)

robtapps wrote:

rgb leds arnt that expensive viper... but the lp pro is stil chreap as balls for what you get... as a matter of fact it would cost no more than my midi fighter OR my samson graphite mf8+Launchpad S

like you gotta think they are buying components in MAD HUGE bulk amounts, so say 80 rgb led's may cost us about $80 it only costs them $40.

I digress. I understand that companies get resources for less than you could commercially, but RGB lights are INSANELY expensive in comparison to the RYG lights included with the other launchpads. And plus, the built in software has to be capable of handling MUCH MORE when RGB lights are put into place.

Apparently, I'm "Diplo Jr."... I ain't complaining.

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Re: The new Launchpad Pro (I mean, the controller, not the website ffs)

ViperActive wrote:
robtapps wrote:

rgb leds arnt that expensive viper... but the lp pro is stil chreap as balls for what you get... as a matter of fact it would cost no more than my midi fighter OR my samson graphite mf8+Launchpad S

like you gotta think they are buying components in MAD HUGE bulk amounts, so say 80 rgb led's may cost us about $80 it only costs them $40.

I digress. I understand that companies get resources for less than you could commercially, but RGB lights are INSANELY expensive in comparison to the RYG lights included with the other launchpads. And plus, the built in software has to be capable of handling MUCH MORE when RGB lights are put into place.

you know what.. im gonna battery test the led's on the S now... this is getting to me.. i cant find RGY led's ANY WHERE... this is leading me to think they are in fact rgb.

"Dude it sucked.. I was all jammin and then *bam!!!!* I got punced in the colon from the inside.."
"If you stay 20 years behind of everyone, you are automatically 10 years ahead."
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Re: The new Launchpad Pro (I mean, the controller, not the website ffs)

robtapps wrote:
ViperActive wrote:
robtapps wrote:

rgb leds arnt that expensive viper... but the lp pro is stil chreap as balls for what you get... as a matter of fact it would cost no more than my midi fighter OR my samson graphite mf8+Launchpad S

like you gotta think they are buying components in MAD HUGE bulk amounts, so say 80 rgb led's may cost us about $80 it only costs them $40.

I digress. I understand that companies get resources for less than you could commercially, but RGB lights are INSANELY expensive in comparison to the RYG lights included with the other launchpads. And plus, the built in software has to be capable of handling MUCH MORE when RGB lights are put into place.

you know what.. im gonna battery test the led's on the S now... this is getting to me.. i cant find RGY led's ANY WHERE... this is leading me to think they are in fact rgb.

Conspiracy?

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49 (edited by robtapps 2015-03-10 19:56:20)

Re: The new Launchpad Pro (I mean, the controller, not the website ffs)

ULT1MOD wrote:
robtapps wrote:
ViperActive wrote:

I digress. I understand that companies get resources for less than you could commercially, but RGB lights are INSANELY expensive in comparison to the RYG lights included with the other launchpads. And plus, the built in software has to be capable of handling MUCH MORE when RGB lights are put into place.

you know what.. im gonna battery test the led's on the S now... this is getting to me.. i cant find RGY led's ANY WHERE... this is leading me to think they are in fact rgb.

Conspiracy?

maybe... ive got it apart right now... running a 5v battery with a pulldown resistor, can only get red... from more than one contact....like cant get yellow or green.. hmmmm

*EDIT* GOT GREEN BUT IM FUCKING BLIND NOW! tongue

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50 (edited by nYmE 2015-03-10 19:54:36)

Re: The new Launchpad Pro (I mean, the controller, not the website ffs)

ViperActive wrote:

Okay , so I'm just going to set this kinda straight.

COST:
      I understand that a large consumerbase for the launchpad are kids (Not that there's anything wrong with that). That's probably why there's so much complaining about pricing. To be honest, if your one of those people freaking about price, get over it. It's sort of a "Welcome to the DJ world" kinda thing. TONS of equipment available for DJ's and Producers is quite costly.
      When looking at the launchpad pro for example, we should be GLAD it's not more than it is. First thing, it's got 64 RBG LED's. I don't know if anyone else understands, but it's not hard to understand that RGB LEDs are WILDLY expensive. So that jacks up the price a lot.
      Then there's the extra functions. All of those are controlled by a motherboard, which we already know from taking apart the Launchpad S. That motherboard has to handle aaall of the tasks and information sent and received through the launchpad. What does that matter? Well, the company has to build a whole new motherboard to process all of the new functions & features, let alone the 10s of thousands of pieces of info sent and received from the launchpad. (Yes, it's 10s of thousands. Brix and I found this out when researching some stuff for wildly complicated lighting patterns). That jacks up the price even more.
      So really, the Launchpad Pro isn't insanely priced for what it is. We should be appreciative of the fact that it doesn't cost more.


COMPARISONS TO PUSH:
    As for the push comparisons. It's honest to god nothing like push. If you don't believe me, let's break it down.
PUSH:
Knobs
Screen
Rectangle buttons, longer in horizontal length
Grey plastic, rectangle device (in shape)
RBG lit buttons
Built for music production
LP PRO:
Square buttons, equal in length and width
Grey plastic, square device (in shape)
RBG lit buttons
Circle buttons surrounding the controller to carry out extra functions
Built for Live music performing

What are the only things that match on the two lists? Grey plastic, and RGB Lighting. What does that tell you? They aren't much alike, unless your only comparing BASIC aesthetics. So please, stop with the push comparisons.


USER 1 MODE:

As for User 1 mode. I sincerely hope that it's still able to be powered BY DRUMRACKS, and that the samples don't automatically create buttons on the corresponding pads. If I figure out more about this, I'll be sure to update this.

I agree... But i think they are going in the wrong way with the pro... You said most launchpadders are kids, and that´s probably right because its great for getting into the world of the midi controllers and DAW´s. It´s a simple, cheap and easy to learn controller... The pro has so much knobs that it is for people who are familiar with the stuff... Especially beacause it´s more expensive. So the customer has to think twice if they want to buy one. Kids probably don´t have enough money for a controller like this... I would be happier with a new Launchpad that is more similar to the old one and doesn´t have so much knobs...
All in all I´m happy with my Launchpad S and because I already got a Maschine Studio I probably won´t buy a Launchpad Pro unless it has some killer features...

And, I know, I´m saing this all time, but english isn´t my primary language, so I´m sorry for that big_smile

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